I get to know Ulrike over the phone. We talk to each other and at first she is not sure whether she would like to take part in the project. Until now she would only have heard positive things. She chooses to be there, which makes me happy. Despite Corona rules, we find each other in this context and meet in Dortmund. From the conversation with her I got the guiding principle: Do not judge a life that you have not lived yourself. I also get to know the two dogs Bo and Bus and we take photos in one location because work and private surroundings are identical. Ulrike mainly does phone sex.